Comments on: WAP Push SMS encoding http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/ A blog about Internet protocols, mobile technologies and things remotely related Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:43:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Surya http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-3676 Surya Thu, 17 Feb 2011 01:41:25 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-3676 I wish to send wap push over smpp (using python http://code.google.com/p/smpplib/). I am not sure, if I need to build the message myself i.e. BRXML. Otherwise, in general, do we have to build our own BRXML no matter what generic SMPP library we use? Please suggest something. I wish to send wap push over smpp (using python http://code.google.com/p/smpplib/). I am not sure, if I need to build the message myself i.e. BRXML. Otherwise, in general, do we have to build our own BRXML no matter what generic SMPP library we use? Please suggest something.

]]> By: Nuno http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1509 Nuno Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:53:47 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1509 Hello! How to wap push an URL pointing to a filename? In my nokia 5310 when i wap push just the site, it works, but when the URL points to a filename, it doesn't...am i doing something wrong? Thanks a lot! nuno Hello! How to wap push an URL pointing to a filename? In my nokia 5310 when i wap push just the site, it works, but when the URL points to a filename, it doesn’t…am i doing something wrong?

Thanks a lot!

nuno

]]> By: Jeroen http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1321 Jeroen Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:21:23 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1321 Franco, No, WAP Push lets you send only one link. You can send more links in a single message as bookmarks, but that is probably not what you want. Jeroen Franco,

No, WAP Push lets you send only one link. You can send more links in a single message as bookmarks, but that is probably not what you want.

Jeroen

]]> By: Franco http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1317 Franco Sat, 01 Aug 2009 18:01:00 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1317 Jeroen: Is it possible to send two different href://.. using same wap push message? If the answer is 'yes' then how would one go about to be able to do it!!!. regards Franco Jeroen:
Is it possible to send two different href://..
using same wap push message?
If the answer is ‘yes’ then how would one go about to be able to do it!!!.
regards
Franco

]]> By: Franco http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1302 Franco Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:00:30 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1302 Jeroen: I can not stop saying, Thanks again. Regards Franco Jeroen:
I can not stop saying,
Thanks again.
Regards
Franco

]]> By: Jeroen http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1301 Jeroen Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:13:37 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1301 Franco, What you have is an application of WAP push. MMS is based on (but not restricted to) SMIL documents. SMIL let's you combine your image, video and audio into one multi-media session. At some point I'll write more about MMS. As far as which is better... Your solution: - Better reach (through email you can reach more devices and even PCs, not all devices support WAP push or MMS). - Easier to build - Cheaper (in general SMS costs are less than MMS costs and email is free) - No mobile operator intervention MMS: - Supports only MMS capable devices - Mobile operator controlled (unless you're not interested in MMS messages from your friends, you'd have to use the MMSC of your operator) - More expensive - Harder to build (MMS messages are Mime multi-part messages that are encoded similar to WSP and WBXML) - The user experience is probably somewhat better with MMS, after all MMS was designed just for mobile phones - MMS messages arrive in your inbox (if configured to do so) and can be viewed offline You decide, Jeroen Franco,

What you have is an application of WAP push. MMS is based on (but not restricted to) SMIL documents. SMIL let’s you combine your image, video and audio into one multi-media session. At some point I’ll write more about MMS.

As far as which is better… Your solution:
- Better reach (through email you can reach more devices and even PCs, not all devices support WAP push or MMS).
- Easier to build
- Cheaper (in general SMS costs are less than MMS costs and email is free)
- No mobile operator intervention

MMS:
- Supports only MMS capable devices
- Mobile operator controlled (unless you’re not interested in MMS messages from your friends, you’d have to use the MMSC of your operator)
- More expensive
- Harder to build (MMS messages are Mime multi-part messages that are encoded similar to WSP and WBXML)
- The user experience is probably somewhat better with MMS, after all MMS was designed just for mobile phones
- MMS messages arrive in your inbox (if configured to do so) and can be viewed offline

You decide,
Jeroen

]]> By: Franco http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1300 Franco Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:41:01 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1300 Jeroen: I do the following -> 1.- Have a wap site. 2.- Send a wap push either SL or SI with a link to a xhtml page. 3.- when user receives message and via get goes the the xhtml page which believe it or not I use bgsound src to a 6.5KB midi file about the famous 20th century fox film theme and somehow, the midi is effectively played(streamed) at my SonyEriccsson w200. 4.- The page shows a link to either an image(jpg), an audio file(.amr) or a video file (.3gp). When user clicks on it downloads the file and file is eventually saved successfully. (I even send a voice mail notification with link to an audio file(.amr) and it simply works.) My question is: Is this wap push, is this MMS or is this better than MMS. By the same token I do this with e-mail using e-mail notification and sendind a link to an e-mail wap site for user to retreive his or her mail. Your thoughts are strongly appreciated. Regards Franco Jeroen:
I do the following ->
1.- Have a wap site.
2.- Send a wap push either SL or SI
with a link to a xhtml page.
3.- when user receives message and via get
goes the the xhtml page which believe it or not
I use bgsound src to a 6.5KB midi file about the famous 20th century fox film theme and somehow, the midi
is effectively played(streamed) at my SonyEriccsson w200.
4.- The page shows a link to either an image(jpg), an audio file(.amr) or a video file (.3gp). When user clicks on it downloads the file and file is eventually saved successfully.
(I even send a voice mail notification with link to an audio file(.amr) and it simply works.)

My question is:
Is this wap push, is this MMS or is this better than MMS.

By the same token I do this with e-mail using e-mail notification and sendind a link to an e-mail wap site for user to retreive his or her mail.

Your thoughts are
strongly appreciated.
Regards
Franco

]]> By: Jeroen http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1295 Jeroen Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:18:51 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1295 Been there, done that.... Good luck! Been there, done that….

Good luck!

]]> By: Sam http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1294 Sam Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:48:09 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1294 Hi Jeroen, Thanks - I've just started going through the OMA-TS-MMS-ENC-V1_3-20080128-C.pdf again and now that I understand PDUs better it makes a lot more sense. Will try to form the M-Send.req etc and see if I can get something basic going. That WAP-PUSH code you have provided is a great stepping stone to understanding how the system comes together. Cheers, Sam Hi Jeroen,

Thanks – I’ve just started going through the OMA-TS-MMS-ENC-V1_3-20080128-C.pdf again and now that I understand PDUs better it makes a lot more sense. Will try to form the M-Send.req etc and see if I can get something basic going. That WAP-PUSH code you have provided is a great stepping stone to understanding how the system comes together.

Cheers,
Sam

]]> By: Jeroen http://mobiletidings.com/2009/02/21/wap-push-over-sms-encodings/comment-page-1/#comment-1293 Jeroen Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:17:50 +0000 http://mobiletidings.com/?p=154#comment-1293 Sam, The MMS MM1 notification is done via a special WAP Push over SMS. I haven't written about this because of the following... MMS delivery includes 3 steps: - The server sends a new message (MM1) notification (which usually originates from the MMSC) - The client fetches the content of the message via GET - The client acknowledges the successful retrieval to the MMSC The last step is a direct interaction with an MMSC (the MMS URL that is configured on your phone). Of course you could just ignore this, but maybe the MMSC uses the acknowledgment for billing.... I'll probably write more about this later in the series. Jeroen Sam,

The MMS MM1 notification is done via a special WAP Push over SMS. I haven’t written about this because of the following… MMS delivery includes 3 steps:
- The server sends a new message (MM1) notification (which usually originates from the MMSC)
- The client fetches the content of the message via GET
- The client acknowledges the successful retrieval to the MMSC
The last step is a direct interaction with an MMSC (the MMS URL that is configured on your phone). Of course you could just ignore this, but maybe the MMSC uses the acknowledgment for billing….

I’ll probably write more about this later in the series.

Jeroen

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